French Family Association
Mara French, P.O. Box 1109, Sutter Creek, CA
95685-1109. 209-267-0649 marafrench@mindspring.com

St. John The Baptist, Saxmundham, Suffolk, England. More
Chart
#11, Samuel French, the Joiner
Saxmundham,
Kelsdale, Knodishall, and Lowestoft, to
Suffolk County, England, and
South Perrott and Bradford Abbas, Dorset County, England, to
Stratford, Connecticut
This chart
updated by Mara French on 4/10/08
Chart #11 compiled by Bill French (over 1,000 Frenches)
Jeremiah
French Jr.Õs House in Upper Canada Village, Ontario, Canada
Jeremiah French JrÕs House in Manchester, VT
Jeremiah French JrÕs Tombstone, United Empire LoyalistsÕ Association of Canada
Joshua
FrenchÕs House in Dorset, VT
Key: Numbers in brackets [ ] refer to the bibliography at the end of this chart. An asterisk (*) shows continuation of that line. Revisions of this page: 1984, 2008 by Mara French.
Contact Information: Please send Bill French any corrections or additions to this chart. He has a published genealogy citing my oldest ancestor is William French b. 1450, d. ca. 1520. His genealogy was published by his great uncle, Mansfield Joseph French in 1940 and is entitled, "Ancestors and Descendants of Samuel French The Joiner of Stratford, Connecticut", Edwards Brothers, Ann Arbor, Michigan). Bill French's line is as follows: William (Bill) French > Alexander Winchell French > Arthur Huntley French > Mansfield Joshua French > Rev. Mansfield French > Joshua French > Samuel4 > Samuel3 > Samuel2 (The Joiner) > Samuel1 > Rev Jeremiah > Thomas > Robert (Robard) > Thomas > William > William of Lowestoft (1450-1520).
Chart
#11 is named after the first immigrant of this line to come to America, Samuel
French, the Joiner. A
joiner was a profession in the 1600's, and according to Webster, it is a person
who constructs the wooden components of a building, such as stairs, doors, and
door and window frames.
Chart
#11 goes back to 1450, the oldest research we have on the surname French.
William French was born about 1450 in Lowestoft, died about 1520, and was
buried 7 Feb 1560 in Kelsale, Suffolk County, England. William French was a
Lowestoft merchant. Mansfield French states* that William had two younger
brothers (or one brother and a nephew), one of who was Churchwarden of St.
Mary's, Kelsale but church records clearly show that the Churchwarden was
Robert French, born 1545 to Thomas, William's brother or nephew. Mansfield
further states that William's father was born c.1450 and died c.1520, and that
his will is filed in Somerset House, London. A researcher' 1993 visit to
Somerset House revealed that no wills are stored there, nor did a close search
of the Public Records Office, where such records are indeed kept, produce any
such document (although I did locate the will of another William French d.1535,
apparently a collateral relative). For William's father to have lived 1450-1520, he would have to have been at least 50 when he married
and to have survived her son, William's mother would have to have been in her
90's in 1593 and therefore young enough to be her husband's granddaughter [3].
It
seems more likely that, as both William's wife Christian and his sister
Margaret had grandchildren (and were thus probably at least 40), his godson
William Wright was married, and his mother was still living when he died,
William was probably born between 1520-1540. If this is so, William's father
would probably have been born between 1480-1520 and thus is clearly not the
William French, Mansfield suggests and the John (d.1561) and Thomas (d. 1567)
whom Mansfield lists as William's brothers could instead have been his uncles.
Mansfield lists a Margaret, bapt. 1548, as one of Thomas's
children. William's will names his sister, Margaret, who would have been
born about this time. Could Thomas be William's father? [3]
In any
case, William and Christian apparently had no living issue. He thus left much
of his estate, a good portion of which he owned outright (rather than
leasehold) to his sister Margaret's son Thomas Goddard and to his wife's son by
her first marriage, Matthew Fullwood who himself had a young daughter at the
time of William's death. William's mother Agnes, who had been widowed for a
second time just previously, survived her son [3].
He was
clearly interested in education, as he also directed that Christian "bring
up or cause to be brought up" Richard Mighael [sic], a fatherless minor,
and send him to school so that he might learn his grammar "and other
things necessary," and like his late stepfather provided an income for a
schoolmaster. He also provided for housing "for two poor people to dwell
in so long as the world standeth" and extended his late stepfather's
bequest to the poor [3].
*
Mansfield states that his records were "furnished by Richard Grosvenor
Barteiot FSA, Editor Somerset & Dorset Notes & Queries." This
would have been before 1940 [3].
Samuel
French, the Joiner, was born 15 May 1687 in Bradford Abbas, Dorsetshire,
England, died 3 Sep 1763 in Stratford, Fairfield Co., CT, and married Mary
Price in Dorset. They had 11 children: Samuel, Jeremiah, Mary, Susanna, John,
Jonathan, Anne, Elizabeth, Thomas, Hannah, and Joseph, all of which are
documented in Chart #11.

East Broad
Street, Stratford, CT
Jeremiah
French was born ca.1712, the son of Samuel and Mary (Price) French of
Stratford, Ct. He came to Dover by 1756 and leased two large farms totaling
over 400 acres. He lived near Old Dover's Tavern in South Dover. He was an
original purchaser of some of the New Hampshire Grants and before the
Revolution owned much of what is today Manchester Center, VT. He had 4 sons who
were loyalists; Jeremiah Jr., Benjamin, Charity and
Gershom [9].
Considering
the very detailed "Settlers of the Beekman Patents", in Dover, Dutchess
County, NY it's confusing because there were two Jeremiah
Frenches. Jeremiah French Sr was the 2nd son of Samuel French
The Joiner. He moved from CT to Dutchess County, NY. He was often accused of
being a Loyalist, and after some skirmishes with some of the locals, and having
to escape for awhile to Long Island, he finally prevailed in Court and retained
all his lands in Dutchess County, NY.
About
1760, his son and others formed a group called the Nine Partners - a land
developing company. They purchased the original patents the King gave about 61
of his buddies, and subdivided and sold them. Jeremiah Jr. surveyed much of the
town of Manchester, Bennington County, VT, and was the first Town Clerk. He
eventually moved to Manchester.
Jeremiah
French Jr, was a Loyalist and a Captain in the Queens Loyal Rangers, then later
a Lt. in the Royal Regiment of New York, (called the "Yorkers"). He
forfeited much of his lands in VT. He moved to Cornwall in Ontario where he
became a very prominent citizen and was the area's first representative to
Parliament in Ottawa. His house was actually moved from land now submerged to
make way for the 1950's St. Lawrence Seaway Project enabling freighters to
travel into Lake Ontario from the Atlantic Ocean. He sold his original house to
a son-in-law, George Robertson. That house is still standing at Upper
Canada Villages, near Cornwall, Ontario, Canada. The house is called the
"Robertson
HouseÓ. Prior to this house, Jeremiah lived at the 1811
House in Manchester Village, Vermont.
Also
see Chart #131, a branch of this line, Phillip French of NYC.
This
French line lived all over the U.S. and Canada, but mostly in Connecticut,
Iowa, Michigan, New Jersey, Jew York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Dakota,
Vermont, and Wisconsin. In Canada they lived in Ontario, Oxford, Stormont,
Cornwall, and Saskatchewan.
Museum and Research Center, 321 Montgomery St., Syracuse, NY 13202. (See
MJ French Collection #6762).
As
written by Bill French: The OHA is online, but their collections are still
being digitized and they have yet to acquire a server adequate to permit online
access to the information and documents. I am in the process of publishing my
family's third edition. The previous 2nd edition, a copy of which I have, was last published in Dec 1940 by my grand uncle, Mansfield
Joseph French. Mansfield left all his genealogical papers and materials
archived at the Onondaga Historical Association in Syracuse, NY. I have been
indexing and scanning the totality of the collection for the last 5 years. I
still have some to do, but believe the end is finally in sight. The original
index consisted of a single line very briefly describing the contents of the 6
boxes of documents and materials. I presently have more then 100 pages of a
detailed index and several thousand scans of the images of the materials.
We also
found my grand uncle's original Book #1 with many notes he made to update his
publication, on eBay. Fortunately, that is back in the family, purchased on
eBay by a cousin in Athens, Greece. I have no idea how it ended up on eBay,
since everyone who knew him, knew how deeply he cared about the family history
and knew he archived his papers and notes.
I
digitized my grand uncle's entire book and retyped every page of it into a
master database. The original publication contained about 3,000 descendants.
Presently I have more than 16,000. There are many who would like to merge into
our family, but I haven't seen sufficient support documentation to permit some
of them to become a part of the master file. I truly wish I had the
advantageous my grand uncle had where I could devote full time to compiling the
family history. I do spent most days doing something toward preparing the 3rd
edition which I hope to publish and have available for purchase at the
"Big One", in the summer of 2009, the first ever full French and
allied families reunion where the majority of my family resided originally - in
Manchester, VT,
As my
note enclosed in my previous email stated, I hope to slightly modify our
genealogy to resemble more of a family history than a straight genealogical
record. I hope to have the bulk of the actual genealogical record attached to
the book, on a DVD which will be sold with the book and will contain as much of
the source documentation as possible, along with the images of the many
documents my grand uncle kept and that I have accumulated for the last several
years. (Emailed from Bill French)
Bradford
Abbas (St. Mary) Church
South
Perrott (St. Mary) Church
St. John the Baptist,
Saxmundham, Suffolk Co, England
St. Thomas Church,
Newport, Isle of Wight, UK
[1] Al
Dawson, at788@detroit.freenet.org
(from 1998 – no longer valid). The maternal grandmother
of my ancestor (wife of Milton Arthur Mason) of Jane (Jennie) SPRINGER Mason
(1844-1895) d. Akron, OH. Anthy French b. 1780,
Manchester VT. Parents: Joseph French (1748-1813); married 1777 Mary BEARDSLEE, in
Stratford, Fairfield County, CT. Mary's date are (1758-1839) b. Stratford, CT,
died Manchester VT. She too has a French (surname) background, as her father
was Israel Beardslee and her mother was Elizabeth French. Joseph was the son of
Samuel French b. 1710 in England and Elizabeth Loring. From Ref [2], p 46
(according to notes from my Springer cousin Jane Ellen Jackson, of Houston,
Texas.
[2] "Ancestors
and Descendants of Samuel French, The Joiner of Stratford, Connecticut"
by Mansfield Joseph French.
[3]
Bill French, wcfrench@hal-pc.org, continuing research by his
great uncle, Mansfield Joseph French Ref [2].
[4]
[5]
Janice Lund, genhelp@worldnet.att.net
(old email address)
[6]
Brian, Brian1956@aol.com
[7]
Richard Day, roday46@cox.net
[8]
Ernest Thompson, Moss Beach, CA, ethompsoniii@sbcglobal.net.
Robert French, probably born about 1550 and died in 1611 in the U.K. He lived
in Carlton on the north edge of Saxmundham. (Suffolk). Wife was Alice Wilton.
Their son was Thomas French, born 1574. The descendents ended up in New York and
Vermont in pre revolutionary time.
[9]
Marian Reeves, marrev@verizon.net
[10]
Tommy French, tommyfrench@cox.net
[11]
Rechcigl, svu1@aol.com (old email address)
[12] Historical
Narratives of Early Canada
[13]
Volume 1, Frank Doherty book "Settlers of the Beekman Patent
, Dutchess County, NY. Frank In the books he puts together all the
information he found in his research on the families that settled in the
Beekman Patent. The French family would be Volume 5 and The Brown Family in
Volume 2 you might want to try to look at these books for the complete rundown
on both of these families.
The
information on Jeremiah French is from page 491 The War-II. Benjamin Birdsall
was a Colonel who served on Long Island but removed to Dover in the Beakman
Patent in March 1777
Birdsall
requested permission from the committee of Dutchess County to settle on some
farm that had been vacated by a Tory. the committee
suggested that he settle on the farms formerly in possession of Archibald
Campbell and Moses Northrup in Pawling. He seems to have settled instead on the
farm of Jeremiah French in Dover. As the letter below indicates, he was rather
upset that French could claim his land back and he took on Egbert Benson,
Chairman of the County committee in his Pique.
Birdsall
placed the following notice in the New York Journal and the General Advertiser
issue of 15 March 1779.
Mr.
Holt,
As I
think it of importance that the good Whigs of this State be well informed of
the political character of the public officers in government, insert the
following narrative in your New-York Journal, and will oblige your humble
servant, Benjamin Birdsall.
Jeremiah
French, of Dutchess County, being suspected to be disaffected to the liberties
of America, and having encouraged his sons to join the enemy, was as I am
credibly informed, put on his parole, broke it, departed out of this State, was
absent about maybe two years, has lately returned, and pretends that he has not
been with the enemy, but has resided in some part of Connecticut, during the
aforesaid time. --- Since his return, the Commissioners for conspiracies,
before whom he was convened, had upon an opinion, that he had not gone over to
the enemy, dismissed him---During the Interval of his absence, the commissioner
of Sequestration seized and sold his personal estate, and leased his lands to
me as a refugee from Long-Island; he now claims the possession of his farms,
which he held on a least for life, from Robert Gilbert Livingston; on the 12th
inst. in conversation with Egbert Benson, Est.; Attorney-General of this State,
one of the Commissioners for conspiracies, and a member of the Assembly
concerning the political character of the said Jeremiah French, and his claim
to the aforesaid lands, he advised me to
hire the said lands of French, which advice occasioned some debate
between him and me, in the course of which he told me, That for two years past,
the Whigs had done the State more damage than the Tories. Conceiving that the
aforesaid expression might have unguardedly escaped from him, I determined to
put it in his power to recall them; I therefore this morning publicly asked him
whether he had not made use of those expressions, and demanded of him to recall
them. -- I therefore think it my duty thus to publish the transaction between
him and me, determine how fit he is to serve them to public office. Benjamin
Birdsall, Marc 14 1779
589 Chapter 10, The Revolutionary War-III.
Jeremiah French was born ca. 1712, the son of Samuel and Mary (Price) French of
Stratford, Ct. He came to Dover by 1756 and leased two large farms totaling
over 400 acres. He lived near Old Dover's Tavern in South Dover, He was an
original purchaser of some of the New Hampshire Grants and before the
Revolution owned much of what is today Manchester Center, VT. He had 4 sons who
were loyalists; Jeremiah Jr., Benjamin, Charity and Gershom, the book
"Ancestors and Descendants of Samuel French the Joiner" 1940, has
good information Jeremiah and his family but we have found a considerable
amount of local information about his Loyalists activities, some of which
follow.
On 23
November 1776 Benjamin Birdsall presented an account of confiscated goods found
on the farm, late Jeremiah French, by Zebulon Seaman and John Conklin. The goods
were mostly joiners tools and were found hidden in the
cellar, inside walls, etc. A letter dated Red Hook 13 Feb. 1781 to Coz Gilbert
Livingston states" I am informed that J French has sold his farm or farms
& himself got in his old trouble again. Therefore I think it behooves me to
look out for myself for the back rents, I make it to about 300 bushels wheat
back rent due in May 1781." on 27 Nov. 1782 Robert G Livingston in a
letter, proposed Jeremiah French's farm for "my son-in-law Mr. John Reade
to go on it in the spring."
French,
in a letter dated Woodbury (CT) Feb. 16th day 1781, addressed to "The
Gentlemen Commissioners and authority of Dutchess County" explained his
actions:The reason of my leaving my habitation as I
did was because I was threatened of my life in highest degree and likewise I
was ordered by the authority after taken to Return home and be peaceable which
I should have been exceeding glad
of but my house was soon beset with a guard and I thought my life in danger. So
I left my habitation the last day of January and came to New Milford the next
day to Woodbury and there remained to the first day of this instant Feb/ and
then I went to New Milford and returned the six day of the month, the seventh
day I went to Wilton, the 8th day I went to Middlesex the 9th day I returned to
Redden and there remained to the 12th day).) the 13th
day to North Stratford the 14th day to Ripon and the 15 day to Woodbury to my
son again where I now be, as witness my hand and seal." (signed) Jeremiah French (N-YHS Colls).
As we note elsewhere, Lt Col. Benjamin Birdsall took over French's farm after
he left, but did not enjoy peaceable possession.
Jeremiah
French was an overseer of the poor for a number of years and was Pawling
Precinct Supervisor in 1776. He is supposed to have died on his farm in Dover
in 1793.
Bottom
of page 492 and top of 493 Settlers of the Beekman patent, Chapter 9 The
Revolutionary War II.
Benson
replied in the paper of 22 March 1770
To the
printer
"Sir
You will through the channel of your paper,, inform
Ben Birdsall, that he is so infamous and contemptible, as scarcely to merit my
notice. -- He has maliciously misrepresented a conversation between us. --- that I made us of the words contained in his advertisement, or others similar
to them is true; but it is equally true that they were spoken with certain
restrictions, and in connections with other words, which would give them a
sense and meaning very different from what was intended by his publication, ---
I forbear to enter into a further vindication of myself, and recapitulate all
that passed between us on Saturday last, or to mention the cause of his
resentment against me, least I should seem to hold up an idea, that I conceived
it possible for him to injure my reputation, However, I do not consider
Birdsall in this instance, more culpable than the person (whoever he may be) whom he employed to draw up
his advertisement; the former it not only a mere wretch devo! id of principle or sentiment, the latter from the stile and
manner of the piece appears to have understanding, and, I do assert, has most
shamefully prostituted his talents, to the vile purposes of defamation; I am ,
your humble servant Egbert Benson.
Poughkeepsie,
march 19, 1779
On 12
March 1779 Birdsall submitted a very lengthy letter to the paper, somewhat
toned down, and that was the end of the :paper
war"
Ancient
Document 10002 contains a "Den V Fen" ejectment proceeding against
Birdsall brought by Samuel Ward and Jeremiah French in October 1779, Gilbert Livingston was attorney for French and the
lands were awarded to French on 12 October 1789. Birdsall was indicted 19 May
1789 for an assault and batter, probably connected with this matter. (Minutes
of Court of common Pleas, MF 127, DC Clerk's Office).
Birdsall
was very active in the war but he didn't seem to find the peace in Dover that
he removed there for.
All the
above information under [13] is from Marion Reeves [9].
In
memory of Martha French, relict of Jeremiah French, who died Aug. 10, 1816, aged
88 years.
In
memory of:
MIHITABLE, wife of Benoni French, who
died August 12, 1814, age 71.
In
Memory of:
ANNA, wife of James R French, Died
March 18, 1841, age 70 years.
JULIA
ANN, daughter of James R & Ann French, died April 20, 1825, in her 17 year.
In bloom of life death laid me down
Till the
last joyful trump shall sounds,
Then burst the chains with sweet surprise
And
in my Saviour's image rise.
In
Memory of:
MRS. MARY FRENCH, Wife of Mr. James
French, who died Feb 10th, 1803, aged 45 years & 10 months.
Here
lyes ye Body of:
MABEL, Relict of Samuel French,
who died May 2, 1837, Aged 76 years.
Andrew, son Samuell Jr & Elizabeth, b Mar 24, 1755
Benjamin, son Jeremiah & Hannah, b Oct 22, 1745
Benjamin, son Benoni & Mehetable, b June 2, 1772; died June 23, 1772
Benoni, m Mehetable BOOTH, Jan 11, 1763
Bette, dau Jon & Bette, b Sept 13, 1744
Bette, dau Jon & Bette, b June 8, 1752
Bettee, dau Samuell & Hannah, b Apr 16, 1770
Bette, dau Gameliel & Susan, b Aug 24, 1784
Charity, dau Jeremiah & Hannah, b Aug 15, 1747
Elijah, son Samuell Jr & Elizabeth, b Sept 12, 1751
Elisha, son Jon & Bette, b Dec 19, 1750
Elizabeth, dau Samuell Jr & Elizabeth, b Apr 8, 1741
Frederick, of Monore (sic), m Carline WELLS of Stratford, Nov 29, 1843, by Rev W B Weed
Gamaliel, m Susana ______.
Gameliel, b Apr 13, 1755
Hulda, dau John & Bette, b Sept 28, 1743
Ichabod, son James & Mary, b Jan 13, 1777
James, m Mary BRINSMADE, Jan 19, 1774
Jeremiah, son Jeremiah & Hannah, b July 8, 1743
John, son John & Bette, b Dec 23, 1746
John, son James & Mary, b Aug 28, 1775
Joseph, son Samuell Jr & Elizabeth, b July 26, 1748
Joseph Brinsmade, son James & Mary, b Jan 12, 1786
Joshuah, son Samuell & Hannah, b Feb 20, 1767
Josiah, son Samuell Jr & Elizabeth, b Dec 18, 1745
Mary, dau Jeremiah & Hannah, b Feb 28, 1739
Mary, m Daniel SHELTON, Mar 13, 1758
Mare, dau Benoni & Mehetable, b Dec 7, 1766
Nathan, son Jon & Bette, b Dec 26, 1748
Nehemiah Loring, son Samuell Jr & Elizabeth, b May 1, 1737
Polly, dau James & Mary, b Dec 6, 1778
Rebecca, m David SHERMAN, Jan 18, 1775
Ruth, dau Gamaliel & Susan, b Aug 21, 1786
Samuell Jr, m wid. Elizabeth CLARK, June 2, 1736
Samuel, son Samuell Jr & Elizabeth, b Mar 9, 1738/39
Samuel Jr, m Hannah NICHOLS, May 29, 1766
Sarah, dau Jeremiah & Hannah, b May 22, 1741
Sarah, dau Samuell Jr & Elizabeth, b June 22, 1743
Sarah, dau John, sadler, & Hannah, b Sept 24, 1753
Sarah Redfield, dau James & Mary, b Aug 13, 1783
Susana, wife Gamaliel, b Sept 18, 1760
Timothy, son Gamaliel & Susan, b Sept 12, 1788
William, son Jeremiah & Hannah, b Mar 23, 1737
William, son Gamaliel & Susan, b Dec 18, 1782